Marketing Darwinism:  Mayank, ITILITE is on a fast track of late.  Can you tell us what is going on?

Mayank:  Paul, thanks.  We are growing rapidly- in fact we’ve grown 5X, but want to remain focused and humble and not let the success get to us.  The world of corporate travel is back with a vengeance as latent demand built during the pandemic and is expressing itself now.  Commerce, trade, travel- they are all back!  With travel comes expense management and with all of that comes a decision – whether organizations want to make it easy or complex.  We help them make it easy and generate ROI simultaneously and as a result, they have cottoned on.

Marketing Darwinism:  Everyone has experienced issues with corporate travel booking and with filing expenses related to travel.  What are the main problems to solve?

Mayank:  You spotted the issue correctly.  Very few users are happy with their organization’s travel and expense management systems.  They are often disconnected and unwieldy.  They lead to a dearth of choices, sub-optimal travel, locked-in routes, and piecemeal and error-prone expense management.  Further, they create a burden on the entire company.  Offering choices to users within a framework that can be managed, offering integration, and one-stop shopping to users is proven to generate efficiency and ROI from day one.  We identified the issue and corrected it and our customers are very happy right now.

Marketing Darwinism: You managed to grow even during the pandemic years.  What is your secret sauce?

Mayank:  To be honest, our team held strong and believed that as the world recovered, we’d be there supporting that recovery. It is testament to our customers, our team, our investors, and our own belief in what we’re doing. That is what got us through the “tough years” with high marks and growth.

Marketing Darwinism: Travel is a global concept.  Did you set out to build a global company?

Mayank:  We are lucky to have hundreds of customers from all reaches of the globe.  Cloud-native solutions are easy to use from anywhere and the phenomenon of corporate travel and expense management is a universal need.  We are proud of our team’s focus and innovation and are grateful for all of our world-wide customers and partners.  We did set out to build a global brand and we feel we’ve executed well on that proposition.

Marketing Darwinism:  What are your predictions for 2022-2025?

Mayank:  We see companies employing a great deal of ingenuity in how they manage corporate travel.  We know that face to face interactions fuel commerce, that events are still hot, and that businesses are budgeting for an upswing in travel.  There are always going to be glitches and temporary issues but we see a secular path upward.  We will continue to innovate, to try to win markets, and to delight customers, and partners.

This week we have an interview with Ed Messman and Kevin Cawley of Rook Capital – where traditional real estate finance meets DeFi. For more info please go to … www.rook.capital

Marketing Darwinism:  Ed /Kevin:  Tell us about Rook Capital. Where did the inspiration come from?

For Ed, the inspiration came from two personal real life use cases of having to sell homes prematurely because of lack of access to liquidity.  Then more recently watching the phenomenal rise in housing prices and thinking about the next generation of home buyers getting boxed out from home ownership.  The original idea however has been on Kevin’s mind for a few years.  How can we at once innovate on a mortgage idea without attempting to disrupt what works with mortgages, to provide liquidity to house-poor Americans, and to make real estate appreciation attainable to everyone—these are the questions we feel we’ve answered with Rook.

Marketing Darwinism:  What are the main issues in the Housing Market?

Home affordability (for everyone but particularly for the next generation that is newly entering the workforce and family stage of life).  Access to easy investing in the asset class and/or the simple ability to support a friend, family member or accommodate a unique situation with a home purchase.  Easier access to liquidity for all stakeholders if and when you need it for your largest asset – your home.  The asset class is huge- $45 trillion- but the riches don’t accrue to everyone in a fair manner.

Marketing Darwinism:  Where does innovation come in with regard to these issues?

To fix home affordability we either need to increase supply (which will take years and is multi-pronged in new builds, zoning, supply chain, etc.) or develop new creative financing mechanisms- like a Shared Value Mortgage.  Furthermore, how do we engage the broader community of people to rally around supporting this by giving them a way to help by co-investing together within a fractionalization framework that is easy to understand, trustworthy, and not onerous

Marketing Darwinism:  What is your plan for scale and market ownership?

We will leverage and partner with the existing and entrenched ecosystem of 1.5M real estate agents and 750K mortgage lenders to help them introduce a new option for homebuyers.  By working with the existing ecosystem we align incentives and achieve scale more naturally than trying to completely disrupt or taking a full DTC approach.  We believe very much in scaling through channels and partnerships.

Marketing Darwinism:  Tell us about your individual journeys and how you arrived here?

Ed: I spent the first half of my career in venture finance where I structured financial instruments for high growth tech companies.  I jumped onto the operating side in 2008 where I was involved in software, fintech and data analytics startups.  As a parent of 3 Gen Z kids, I’m watching a new generation embrace new behaviors and mindsets and also face a daunting path to homeownership — which they are redefining what that even means.  The collision of fintech, real estate price acceleration, and DeFI with the behaviors and wants of a new generation has sparked a new mission for us.

Marketing Darwinism:  Parting thoughts?

Owning a home is sacred.  It offers the space for raising a family, for fellowship, for rest and sanctuary.  The issue in front of us and our kids is daunting and will require new creative ways that embrace the new mindsets and behaviors that are already in place.  It will require resilience to innovate in the backdrop of a highly regulated environment.  It will require more than just us…but the community at large…including the brave new world of DeFi.  If there were ever a moment for DeFi to flex it’s might, it is now.

A guest post by: Pulak Sinha, CEO Pepper and Paras Shah, CEO LAMR Group

In the world of Business and Technology, two areas are drawing a great deal of attention- FinTech and Security.  It’s no surprise- they are deeply connected and causally related areas.  The connection between the two reminds us of the apocryphal story of Bank Robber Willie Sutton who when asked why he robbed banks, replied sheepishly, “Because that’s where the money is.”  So too with Fintech.

In our experiences- very different experiences that is—the issues of Security and Financial Services converge neatly and can be summed up with two core conditions:  Stewardship and Trust.  When the “product” being dealt with is peoples’ money or other core assets, the absence of trust is a death-knell; conversely, the existence of trust creates a bridge to success.  For the FinTech dealing with money, the role of stewardship is critical- they have to be dutiful stewards of both money and data related to that money.

Stewardship is of course not simply about intent.  It is also about having the systems in place- and the processes, culture, and personnel- that allow for the enactment of that stewardship.  Good intentions are wonderful, but insufficient.  Stewardship is not about a point in time, either.  It is about ongoing resiliency and an “always on” culture of proactive behaviors that ensure the proper handling of money, data, and other assets.

Financial Services as an industry has a mixed record here.  For the most part, things are good.  Most people interact with the industry on a daily basis and do so with ease.  Of course, when things are almost always good, we take them for granted.  As such, when a lapse or breach does take place, it becomes the defining characteristic, the Achilles heel of an otherwise useful and productive company.  In addition, since we are talking about money, data, and personal information, such lapses can have outsized impacts on peoples’ and companies’ lives.  It’s great to be good 99.9999% of the time.  But if that .0001 % possibility is an “extinction event,” then even that is not tolerable.

The responsibilities here are joint.  In the world of, for example, Asset Management, the AM company has to take the issue seriously and invest in the right systems and platforms to ensure that ROI doesn’t come at the cost of impossible risk or regulatory breach.  But the investors who entrust their money to the AM company also have to demand of its executives to invest in these systems, processes, and people.  The passive approach by any party is a non-starter.

Massive advances have been made in Security but just as they’ve been made, the attack vectors have multiplied exponentially.  The Security industry has done a fine job of elevating Security to a top business issue, but many companies still honor that notion only rhetorically.

We need a new paradigm.

Trust in Fintech is key.  So too is stewardship.  A flexible and powerful security stance helps get us to both.

In an earlier article, Marketing Darwinism spoke to Pulak Sinha, Founder and CEO of Pepper.  Since we spoke with Pulak, the company has done some incredible things.  We enjoy watching the evolution and growth of those we’ve covered before.  

Marketing Darwinism:  Pulak, some amazing things are going on.  Tell us a bit about developments.

Pulak Sinha:  Thanks Paul.  There are many things to say but I’ll restrict it to three.  First of all, we couldn’t be happier with our customers.  They are amazing “partners” in the business and tell us that they are realizing real value very quickly from the Pepper platform.  As they take on new workloads, they are able to do so seamlessly and get to ROI in record time.  Nothing makes us happier.  Second, we are happy to announce that as of January 2022, we have over $6 billion on the platform, which is testament to the efforts of our team and the intense partnerships I referred to above.  Finally, we are happy to be able to announce our “Pepper Inside” campaign with you.  Please look for our ads on LinkedIn and elsewhere and check out our website for our benefits statement- how Asset Management and related companies can benefit from “Pepper Inside.”

Marketing Darwinism: Superb updates. Congrats on the $6 Billion.  What’s next?

Pulak Sinha: We are focused like a laser now.  We want to get more companies on our platform but also to deepen our footprint/partnerships with existing customers.  We built a platform for a reason- not to just offer one point solution and then be done.  We are talking full life-cycle, cross-workload stuff- truly a platform.  2022 is the year of the platform and “Pepper Inside.”

Marketing Darwinism: You’ve helped coin the term “AssetTech” as a sub-area of FinTech.  Tell us more.

Pulak Sinha: Paul, the numbers are just staggering.  PwC estimates that approximately $120 trillion is managed world-wide by Asset Managers.  $120 trillion!  This area dwarves so many others that get more “respect” and focus.  We want to change that. We want to help steward a new era of technology and trust in the world of Asset Management, an area of enormous importance.  Thus, the term “AssetTech.”

Marketing Darwinism: How do you see 2022 as compared to 2021?

Pulak Sinha: 2021 was a strange year.  People went through a lot.   Death and health issues were everywhere. Commerce pulled up.  Investors focused on different things than usual.  Tumult was a constant.  Our team worked hard to stabilize, to be optimistic, and to serve customers.  We more than doubled the business in the year and are very proud of that.  But there is so much more to do- that’s 2022!

Marketing Darwinism: Tell us about “Pepper Inside”

Pulak Sinha:  We as a team conceived of this campaign after a realization:  When we are “inside” an organization –which is to say when Asset Managers run the Pepper platform, the level of stewardship – of money, data, assets- goes up and investors can rest assured that their money is going to be handled with an eye towards high ROI, risk management, and so on.  Trust.  Pepper Inside is about trust and results.  When we realized that, we knew we had to go big with this campaign. 

A guest article by Romi Mahajan

In an early part of my career- almost 20 years ago- I had the opportunity to work with some incredible people in the “security” space. Many of those I had the privilege of working with and learning from have gone on to do noteworthy things in the space- from being CISOs of large companies, to starting successful security startups, to authoring important and even tectonic articles on the space.

As I recall from those heady days two decades ago, those involved in the “Business” and “Marketing” sides of security (as opposed to the technical side) all agreed on one thing: Security has to be framed as a business issue not just a technical one. Ninety percent of those on the technical side agreed with this.

While the sentiment appears to be a cliché, it is perhaps more nuanced than it might seem. The point is not that security impinges on business and as such must be taken seriously. Instead, the emphasis here is on the nature of the business and the corresponding defense-posture that a business should take. Additionally, it’s a reminder that the nature of the business will dictate the differential investments in security that make up the whole.

Twenty years ago, I had an easy example to trot out for explanation: If your company is an ecommerce play then making sure your website is not hacked and is up and functional is key to your business. Not so much if your company is a restaurant. Both require security but in different ways and at different levels of investment.

At that time, we created a “Risk Assessment” that essentially assessed business risk and mapped it onto security posture and spending. The idea was that they should match in valence level- you don’t want an important asset unprotected nor do you want to spend millions to protect something that is irrelevant.

The notion that Business risk is the key element of analysis has persisted and would be a truism if indeed it was a universally understood idea. But alas it is not.

We still encounter generic language and un-nuanced views of security. We still see complacency in the ranks of business leaders, relegating security to something that “IT will think about.” We also still see a shifting landscape of blame- forgetting conveniently that security has to be a Board level issue.

LAMR Group’s Paras Shah says it well- “After the fact finger pointing does no one any good in security. Resilient frameworks for managing the business issue that is security have to be developed and funded, continuously, by the Board of any organization of appreciable size.” Security thinker Manish Godha adds, “Security better be part of your 2022 plan. Not-negotiable.”

In a world of daily breaches, attacks, ransom demands- on and to the systems on which our entire human infrastructure runs- security must not only be top of mind but the “thinking” has to be met with real action. The suggestion that security is just a technology issue has no place in the dialogue of 2022 and beyond.

Marketing Darwinism:  Gayle, you left a brilliant sales career at stalwarts like Informa and Microsoft to start your own gig.  Is this part of the “Great Resignation” or is something else afoot?  

Gayle Keller:  I have always been a woman who has reinvented her professional life.  It just so happens I pressed pause on my corporate career and left a role (and company) that I admire during The Great Resignation in search of more balance and fulfillment in this season of life.

I spring boarded from sales into the entrepreneurial abyss to reinvent myself while embracing the uncomfortable feeling of the unknown.

• Was I nervous?
• Was I apprehensive?
• Was I afraid of failing?

Absolutely YES to all three questions!  However, I knew I had to let my calling be stronger than my fear to guide me on my new path.  

Marketing Darwinism:  You emphasize re-invention and also the gendered aspects of work.  How are they connected?

Gayle Keller:  With respect to reinvention and gender inclusivity, unconscious bias still exists which influences our behaviors and ultimately can impede inclusion.  Corporate inclusion is acknowledging differences and collectively bringing them together for a common mission – to drive project success, build camaraderie, and recognize and acknowledge those who contribute to the company’s bottom line.  Diversity, equity, and inclusion are even more important in our globalized world today. To be a diverse organization, you must have a focus on inclusion; it’s no longer an option. 

Marketing Darwinism:  You once told me you were a marketer at heart and I recall you once led a marketing conference.  Can you describe how you have brought your “marketing bent” to bear on both our sales and your entrepreneurial endeavors.

Gayle Keller:  We are all marketers and sellers at heart, no matter what profession we choose.  As consumers, we buy from brands that speak to us.  As businesspeople, we buy and/or partner with people and organizations who we can related to and that will support us in exceeding our goals.

Marketing is a form of communication and a way to connect with others.  Communication skills (and good manners!) are critical in relationship building. To that point, your personal brand is everything and is a vital part of standing out in this world, especially if you are looking to reinvent your professional life.

Marketing Darwinism:  What lessons for a young marketer would you have?  What would you suggest they emphasize in their learning?

Gayle Keller:  My advice is to network and start as early as possible.  Starting to network when you’re in college is a key element to bridging the gap from campus life to professional life.  The sooner you start to network, the sooner the universe acknowledges your hopes, dreams, and begins to align people and potential opportunities your way.  

Networking at the organizations you desire to work at as well as people (both inside and outside of your industry) whom you admire can strengthen your confidence and give you the clarity you need to follow your aspirations.  The art of networking is truly magical. 

Marketing Darwinism:  Describe the services you offer to companies and how it helps them become better environments for success?

Gayle Keller:  The corporate ladder has a broken rung when it comes to inclusion, and I address revitalizing gender inclusivity head on with my advisory work and five pillar methodologies.  For example, if a company has a strong culture with happy employees, that company thrives, and chances are so does their profitability.  A positive culture improves performance and outcomes while decreasing employee onboarding and turnover costs and efforts which, in turn, increases employee retention.  

Furthermore, gender inclusivity fosters accelerated productivity in a collaborative environment, and results in all genders feeling respected, supported, and appreciated.

Marketing Darwinism:  Who are some of your marketing mentors? Do you recommend mentorship to all people, irrespective of age or experience?

Gayle Keller:  I have been blessed by having a few marketing mentors throughout my many seasons of life – Romi Mahajan has been one of my personal mentors for nearly 10 years.

Yes, I absolutely recommend mentorship to all people regardless of age or experience.  Career reinvention and professional risk-taking have no age limitations.  Having a trifecta of mentors, business coaches, and sponsors in your professional arena is a secret sauce to success, growth, and satisfaction.  You can never go wrong with investing in yourself for it will set you apart from your competition.  And a good rule of thumb is to pay it forward by contributing to the success of others.

Marketing Darwinism:  What are your predictions for business in 2022?  What are 3 or 4 trends you see as important?

Gayle Keller:  My predicted top business trends for 2022 are:

• The Great Resignation
• Flexibility and Autonomy
• Career Reinvention

The biggest trend defining the way we do business is The Great Resignation and mitigating employee turnover.  As a culture, we have craved the ability to navigate the intersection between work/life integration with a pinch of flexibility and a handful of autonomy.  With The Great Resignation underway, I don’t see the movement as a negative but more of a positive.  It’s an opportunity for companies to do a better job reaching gender parity, shine a spotlight on mental health and wellness while being more empathetic towards their employees.  

The Great Resignation provides an opportunity for employees to have more flexibility and autonomy to work on their own terms with their role given the hybrid work model and the ability to work from anywhere.  It also provides an opportunity for employees to seek career reinvention to find work/life integration and do something that makes their heartstrings sing. 

Career Reinvention is something we all should embrace, regardless of gender.  Reinvention occurs when you get a promotion, make a lateral move into another division/department, or leave a company altogether.  We are constantly reinventing ourselves and given we’re living in a global hybrid work environment; it is more important than ever to make sure you are continuing your learnings through trainings and courses while networking with people both inside and outside your company.

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Gayle’s Bio:  As a professional speaker, advisor, coach, podcast host, author and former award-winning executive leader who has a deep passion for improving communications and relationships, Gayle Keller, Chief Reinvention Officer, leads, facilitates, inspires, and revitalizes gender inclusivity programs for select corporations and universities. Learn more about Gayle here https://gaylekeller.org/

Technology Marketing executive and investor Romi Mahajan has joined PropTech Platform HouseAmp as its first Chief Marketing Officer. His responsibilities will be building a world-class brand, generating demand for HouseAmp’s products and services, and building a scalable marketing infrastructure and team. Previous to HouseAmp, Mahajan spent nine years at Microsoft and has been CMO of 6 different companies, including most recently leading PropTech AI play Quantarium.

“We are ecstatic to have Romi join HouseAmp as part of our Leadership Team, “says Rick Hennessey, HouseAmp CEO and Co-Founder. “He brings enormous creative chops and a successful track record to lead our marketing efforts,” he adds

HouseAmp is an innovative platform designed to align the needs of Homeowners, Service Pros, Brokers, and Agents. The US residential real estate market is the country’s largest asset class- with $40 trillion of aggregate value. American homeowners have $22 trillion of equity in their homes but up to 75% of them cannot easily, securely, and cost-effectively access this equity. Millions of homeowners can substantially raise the value of their homes via refurbishments that they do not have the cash to do. HouseAmp’s “Pay Later Platform” allows homeowners to easily access the liquidity needed to make these changes, while having to provide no money upfront, opening a new vista of possibilities for house-rich Americans.

“PropTech as a space is booming and HouseAmp’s offerings stand-out as not only powerful in the marketplace but also aligned with the notion that families’ houses are often their largest investments and the ability to both access and grow equity is a life-changer for the vast swath of US homeowners,” says Mahajan.

HouseAmp is based in Seattle and has team members distributed throughout the United States. Backed by serial entrepreneurs with a superb record of exits, the company will be tripling headcount in 2022 as it embarks on hyper-growth.

A guest article by Walter Allen, President| HouseAmp.

Residential Real Estate is the largest asset class in the world. In the US alone, residential real estate is valued at a staggering $40 trillion. While it is understood that the housing market is a bellwether for the entire economy, it is rarely mentioned that Americans have about $22 trillion in home equity and owe about $18 trillion in mortgage debt.

For many families, their home equity constitutes the bulk of their net-worth. Home equity, however, does not imply liquidity or the availability of cash; often, the ability to tap into one’s home equity is constrained by stringent financial requirements, income to debt ratios, and a host of other factors.

This can lead to difficulty for many people who have wealth caught up in their homes but little cash. For people who are interested in selling their houses to avail of the equity (or for other reasons), another difficulty arises. This difficulty can be turned into an opportunity under the right circumstances and with the right partners.

Put simply, many houses would sell for substantially more money if they were refurbished before sale. The increase in sale amount in many cases far exceeds the amount of money used for refurbishment. The key is to determine which elements of the house to change- to drive the most ROI- and to be able to arrange the liquidity to get the refurbishments done.

Many people struggle at this point. They have money locked in their home equity and are looking to maximize their returns but don’t have the cash on hand or wherewithal to make the right changes in order to derive the most gain upon sale.

Estimates are that millions of people are in this circumstance every year. As such, the scale of the opportunity is great, matched fully by the need in the marketplace for a solution. This creates a crossover between an economically productive set of services and a set of services built on the notion of fairness, equity, and homeowner value in the overall housing ecosystem.

Providing early and timely liquidity to home-sellers such that they can upgrade their homes, sell for a high multiplier of investment, and then enjoy the benefits of increased equity while only settling with the liquidity provider “later” is thus an important part of the fertile housing transaction ecosystem.

Doing this while providing ease, speed, and security is gravy on top.

We are moved every day by the stories of people whose lives are altered by the services we make available. Both the opportunity and the gratification are monumental.

Marketing Darwinism caught up with Marketing Executive Todd Wells, CMO of award-winning Acumatica

Marketing Darwinism: Acumatica- the leader in Cloud ERP.  What is the value proposition of the company and what explains the torrid growth pace?

Todd W: Acumatica does indeed continue to grow at a very substantial pace – and it’s great to see how the product and the value proposition resonates so well with our prospects and customers.  The value prop is centered on three basic promises: superior technology, high value, and unflagging support. That is essentially what we provide to all members of the Acumatica ecosystem, from worldwide OEMs and regional VARs to ISVs, developers, and of course customers. We truly believe it’s our duty and obligation to ensure the success of all those who place their trust in Acumatica.

Marketing Darwinism:  Todd, you were a marketing and data leader at Microsoft and then transitioned to a much smaller company.  As a Marketer, how do you unlearn the “access” to massive budgets and teams and find a more guerrilla footing?

Todd W: I tend to think about it less as unlearning and more about bringing all of my varied experience to bear on the work – whether that is the experience with scale or even in different industries prior.  The scale was certainly different from when I left Microsoft to when I started at Acumatica, but I think that we are now scaling so quickly that much of the work is similar to what I did before with large, global teams.  Meanwhile, of course, you just have to roll up your sleeves and do the work rather than delegate it. Massive budgets often mean you have to get more people involved, and that doesn’t necessarily lead to a better result.

Marketing Darwinism:  Acumatica’s marketing is top-notch and ubiquitous.  How do you approach the marketing mix?

Todd W:  Marketing is directly responsible for a substantive portion of our licensing wins on a quarterly basis – and so no question that our demand generation is focused on those vehicles that are quantitatively proven to drive pipeline – and we continue to dynamically invest and optimize across the entire mix.  But given that we are a challenger in the ERP space – we do have other complementary objectives such as brand awareness – and you will see our presence in airports and other vehicles – even including highly targeted television ads.

Marketing Darwinism: I see that Acumatica Summit is a core piece of your outreach strategy.  What does the Summit/Physical Event offer you that other, “virtual” means cannot?

Todd W:  I do believe that the Summit is an extremely strong community event and one that will continue into the foreseeable future. The way our attendees come together with real enthusiasm is hard to duplicate, it can’t be livestreamed. Virtual events and webinars are certainly a critical component of our marketing mix – and have grown substantially in importance during COVID and quarantine – but yes, as you say, the Acumatica Summit is the seminal event for us and our customers, partners, and industry analysts.  We invest a lot of time and effort to ensure that it is motivating, engaging and informative for all attendees – and we just recently concluded our 2021 Summit at the Wynn Las Vegas – with over 2,500 attendees and record satisfaction levels.

Marketing Darwinism:  Acumatica’s growth one can argue is partner-led.  What are the challenges and opportunities of being a CMO on a channel enablement scenario versus a direct-to-customer scenario?

Todd W:  Acumatica is entirely dedicated to our partner channel – and I like to think about partners as a marketing flywheel driving awareness and demand generation beyond what we can do ourselves.  A critical focus of my team is our partner marketing enablement capabilities through which we can go to market through and with our vast partner ecosystem. A direct-to-customer scenario is certainly more traditional, but leveraging the channel and all of its breadth and expertise can be a very powerful combination.

Marketing Darwinism: What is your advice for young marketers today?  In the tech industry and others?

Todd W: I think that there has probably never been a better time to be in Marketing – the ever changing and progressing capabilities across marketing technologies, the changing dynamics of our lives across work and our personal, etc.  Companies are more and more realizing how critical Marketing is to deliver on business objectives – and we are witnessing a resurgence in the prominence of the role.  There is so much to learn and understand across digital marketing, analytics, customer experience, creative etc these days – my advice is simply to learn as much across as many of these aspects as possible and to be open to any new opportunities to learn – the strongest marketers I work with have a broad spectrum of experiences and knowledge and are able to leverage it to deliver results.

Marketing Darwinism had the opportunity to meet up with Paras Shah, Managing Director at LAMR Group Inc.

Marketing Darwinism:  Paras, you are an acknowledged expert in Security and Privacy.  Tell us about these areas and please inflect with your experience.

Paras Shah:  Thanks Paul.  I am not sure I am an expert.  I say this not out of false humility but because one can never truly be an expert in these areas, given the pace of technological change, always expanding attack surface and the complexity of risk scenarios  arrayed against any organization.  But, yes, I’ve been in the space for 20 years and am struck by two seemingly contradictory themes.  

The first is that much of what we knew even 10 years ago, particularly around probable targets, has been rubbished by later developments.  Technologies change rapidly and with the democratization of devices and technology-business singularity, threats are literally ubiquitous.  20 years ago, many thought only about large organizations and companies being under threat.  Now, threats are equal opportunity.  So yes, that has materially altered the threat landscape and along with it the solution market place.

The second is how much has stayed the same.  We had a mantra decades ago that security was about technology but also people, process, culture, and other factors.  Well, that’s still the same.  So, any framework you build to deal with Security and Privacy has to have multiple components in its composition and spirit.

Marketing Darwinism:  What roles does LAMR Group play in this space? 

Paras Shah:  We follow what I just covered as a core tenet of our value proposition.  We offer consultation and frameworks but also human capital to large and medium sized companies so that they can think of Security and Privacy holistically.  We also identify best in breed products and managed services in the Security space and either resell them or advise customers on their adoption.  Business has been brisk, which is an indication of just how much work has to be done in the space.

Marketing Darwinism:  Many of our readers are Marketers by profession though all are senior enough to wear multiple hats.  How does marketing play a role in this space?

Paras Shah:  Marketing plays a very large role in Security and Privacy, in some expected ways and in some unexpected ways.  

Given the ubiquity of the “Security” conversation, almost all companies that deal with technology, data, personal information, or anything even remotely “sensitive” have to refer to their security and privacy protocols in marketing literature – communicating good security hygiene has become “table stakes” for a competent marketer. This is good and bad.  It’s good that almost all organizations take these areas seriously but also, as is the wont of marketers, there are many boasts and hyperbolic statements that set organizations up for failure.  Too good to be true is, well, never true.  Technologists and Security professionals have to deal with the fallout of these marketing claims.  I’d ask all Marketers to consult with Security and Privacy people before making claims that cannot be paid off.

Marketing Darwinism:  It’s almost a marketing ethics issue isn’t it?

Paras Shah:  In some ways yes but also, to cut folks some slack, there are some misconceptions about Security and Privacy;  that there are quick fixes or silver bullets or that doing an “audit” then remediation is a one-time deal.  Not at all.  These are constant, continuous, dynamic spaces that require frequent attention –  top of mind always.

Marketing Darwinism:  Parting thoughts? 

Paras Shah:  All people in Security have to be evangelists of some sort.  So, all I can really say is that for all organizations, of any size, Security and Privacy to be a Board-Level issue and a core strategic pillar. Security and privacy cannot be relegated  to a parenthetical discussion.